Table of Contents for this issue:
Re: MicroMac 68030 Accelerator
Mac IIci Memory Wierdness
Claassic II Clock Stuck
Re: Classic Macs Digest 2.20
Re: Web Browser for System 6
Protecting Macs From Kids
This may seem like a tall order but here it goes. Im looking for
HTML "viewer." I need a way to take a web site on a lap top and show it
to a client so that they can see how their web sit will look once
posted. Essentially, I need Nagivator or IE with the communications
functions striped out. I would perfer to be able to show Java and Java
script. Running on a 68K Powerbook is a BIG plus. I will collect and
"digest" responses and repost them here.
I am considering getting a MicroMac 68030 accelerator for my
(but very much loved) Plus, but I have some questions I hope the
"gang" can help me with.
I installed one from MicroMac in my SE about 2 years ago.
1. How good are they? Do you really get the performance
Performance boost was very noticeable for computation functions.
was slightly faster, screen animation about 2X faster. Applications like
EXCEL 4.0 and WORD 5.1 now run slow but acceptable - previously they were
uselessly slow. I got the version with the FPU which EXCEL checks for.
3. What about using Virtual by Connectix to get up to 16 MB
virtual memory with these 68030 accelerators? How well does
this *really* work?
I've heard that not all applications, DA's or extensions work
virtual memory. The results of persistent crashes can be tiresome.
4. Are they reliable? Any body have one that's been
along for years?
Mine been running for 2 years with not one crash or
incompatability noted. I
have lots of shareware that I've tested and a hundred or so applications
that I use. They have all worked identical to my Mac IIci which is a native
68030. Those with bugs give the same bug behavior on both systems, which is
what is desired.
So I'm satisfied with mine - this was the #1 issue in my selection
accelerator, price was #2. The MicroMac was also reasonably priced, there
are several others that are ridiculous - one could buy two complete Mac IIci
or cx 68030 systems for the price of one SE 68030 accelerator card.
5. How difficult was it to install (Plus and Classic users
need reply to this one).
Easy enough, the instructions actually worked.
6. Are you limited in max modem speed despite having a
processor? I assume that the faster processor does nothing
for the UART-to-bus transfer speed (assuming that you are
still limited to the 8 MHz system bus).
Max modem speed is limited, but I noted a dramatic throughput
since the Rx duty cycle was rather low on the standard SE - It's about 4
times faster in ftp or WWW file downloading now.
7. I already use a Kensington Mac System Saver unit to keep
Plus cool; is there anything else I should do to reduce the
power supply burden? *IS* there an additional power supply
I vacuum out the dust every 9 months. I also wash the CRT with Windex
(BE SURE YOU DISCHARGE THE CRT HIGH-TENSION LEAD WITH A CLIP-LEAD TO AN EARTH GROUND LIKE THE KITCHEN FAUCET, NOT THE MAC FRAME)
I then clip a cliplead from the Mac frame to the end of the lead
while I wash the CRT. Look for
signs of overheating on the powersupply card - there's a resistor that
toasted the princted circuit card.
(I plan to only go to MacOS 7.1 max on this machine, so this
not a problem.)
I ran 7.1 for a year and then went back to 7.0.1 for the speed
even though it lacks the newer features.
I have read anywhere that Netscape 1.1.1 runs on 68000
Does anyone know of that ?
If so, where can I download it ?
Here's one for the experts-
I've got a IIci which presently has 16 megs of 70ns ram in it-
everything works fine in that configuration. I've tried to upgrade it
to 20 megs by adding 4-1meg simms; the machine runs, but crashes
regularly and suffers from lots of Type 1 errors. If I reverse the
banks, I get the same results, but if I run the machine on just the 4
megs, all is well. It would seem that the two sets of memory just don't
get along. I've tried various simms for the 4 extra megs- 2-chip,
8-chip, and 9-chip, down to 60ns, and all exhibit the same wierdness.
Anyone have any insight into this problem? Is the IIci fussy about
relationship between the two banks? Is there anything I need to watch
out for besides just using memory faster than 80ns? Any thoughts on the
matter would be appreciated! Thanks,
Thanks to all responding to my clock problem.
It seems time to buy a new battery since 1992 I bought the machine.
Is the battery easily obtainable at place's like "Radio shacks" or
must be specialby "Apple" ?
I am just a lucky owner of IIsi. My friend gave me this baby and I'd like
to use it for some years more.
Is this NuBus slot compatible with all NB cards, especially 040
accelerators. How much are such cards and who makes it?
Any suggestions would be fine. Please sent'em to: pedro
Help! I thinking of buying an old Performa 475, but can't seem to
specs. It is supposed to have a 68LC040 chip at 25MHz. A strangely low
speed for that chip, wouldn't ya think?
Can anyone point me to some info on this beast?
On 2/28/97 5:59 PM, cmpost wrote:
I just got MacTCP 2.0.6 and MacPPP 2.0.1 running nicely, and
for a solid extensions manager so that I can make an Internet-only set, a
minimal set, a work set, etc... INIT cdev 3.0 does the job, sort of
(limited sets) -- but it does it by changing file types and crashes when
I try to invoke it on startup (not real helpful!). Extensions Manager 2.0
claims back-compatibility to System 4.x, but it crashes on startup too,
and -- get this -- it actually doesn't do anything. It plain doesn't
work. (!?!) Answer is pretty, but it can't load on startup or make sets.
There are two parts to Extensions Manager. The Control Panel, and
extension that makes it load first. If you don't have the extension
installed, it can't load its set information on startup. That could be
part of your problem.
I'm surprised that EM2 claims backward compatibility. It performs
magic by moving extensions and control panels to and from folders called
"extensions" and "extensions disabled". (and the same for CPs). System 6
doesn't have folders for extensions and CPs, so I wouldn't think EM will
If you need this arrangement, and if InitCDev isn't doing it for
maybe you should upgrade to System 7.1, Update 3. Then Ext Mgr will be OK.
Just postin' to find out if there is a web browser that would run on a Mac SE
with 4meg ram and 68000 processor that supports, most importantly forms, and\or
frames. Thanks in advance. Ciao
Sorry, but all web browsers for the Mac REQUIRE system 7. If you
running on a Mac plus or SE, try Mac Web 1.00a3.2. There are several
sites on the 'net that have it. I personally like the ftp search
capabilities of Filez (http://www.filez.com).
Subject: Web Browser for System 6
Sent: 2/28/97 8:04 PM
Received: 3/1/97 2:38 PM
Does anyone out there know of a browser that will work with
6.0.7? I really hate to run system 7 just to browser the web. I
do not require, or even really want, a browser that displays graphics,
as I am in B&W. Even better would be where I can download such a
browser, preferably in ftp, but anything, even buying the browser
would be helpful right now.
I've read all the ways to open the case - rulers, special tools,
brand woodworker clamps with the lip bent straight (I think these where
distributed by Ehman). But I have never needed to use them.
1. I grab the Mac from the side in a big bear hug.
2. I put the same grimace on my face that I use when I open a jar
turn) that my wife has just spent five minutes in attempting to open.
3. I press the fingers from one hand on the side of the bezel and
from the other hand on the case near the bezel ( trying to get some purchase in
the groove with my finger tips)
4. Pull apart a little bit at a time and work around the case evenly.
This has always worked for me even when the Macs were brand new.
By now I
can't imagine that any toaster Mac you would come to inherit would not have
been opened at least once in its lifetime. That first opening is always the
hardest (I guess the sprayed-on coating on the interior of the case seals the
seams a little)
I successfully put together a TORX tool from a visit to the Power
accessory rack at the hardware store. I found a 6 inch magnetic
bit-holder/extension that got me beyond the case handle, but still was slim
enough to fit in the recessed screw hole.
But my big discovery was a screwdriver set at Trak auto supply -
24 inch long
screwdrivers! One Philips, one regular, and one T-15 - perfect! A little
over-kill, but it does the job.
Brian wrote in with this question:
from: B Soluski
I have a acquired 11 Mac LC's 2 or 4 MB RAM and 20Meg
I want to teach a basic compter curriculum to children
at our local Boys & Girls Club.
3. What are some of the obvious programs I should have on the computers?
Realistic answer: students.
The reader that answered "students" is right - I maintain 6
Classics in an elementary school childcare facility, and the kids
love to create folders with 'creative' names and drag and drop stuff
into the trash - often the system folder or game apps.
An access control program called "Foolproof" is the answer - it
leaves the Mac desktop available to the kids, but various levels of
'locking' are possible and works great. Issue the passwork, and you,
the administrator, have access to everything.
Foolproof is put out by SmartStuff Software, PO Box 82284,
97282, order # is 800-671-3999, and their web site is email@example.com
I have no investment or other financial interest in
but it keeps headaches to a minimum when you have first graders
getting their hands on a mouse for the first time.....
I see a few manufactures such as Sonnet and MicroMac
still make 68040 accelerator cards for the IIci, for about $400.
Has anyone bought such a card for their Mac IIci?...
First thing I did when I bought my used IIci was get an
(Or maybe it was more memory - I forget) <G>. Anyhow, I needed the accel. card
because I was used to an Apple IIGS and the IIci needed the speed boost to
allow me to experience the same performance. I grabbed the Daystar, which I
think you may still be able to find.
No matter what you decide, look around a little more - I think you
$400 on the price (but I haven't followed the prices too closely).
I think I could live with that for another year or so until I'm
to buy a new computer...
If you've been happy with the IIci so far, I'd suspect you could
an accelerated IIci for MORE than another year:) Sometimes you just "luck
out" and purchase a fantastic machine. I consider the IIgs and the IIci that
type of computer, I still have and use both - usually in preference to the
PPC I also own:)
Hope this helps!
I'm not really sure if this is a "Classic Mac" question, but does
know if you can use a SyQuest SyDos 44 MB drive on a Mac? It has a SCSI
interface, but will I need any drivers or anything to get it to work? I'd
like to get it working since it would be a perfect removable drive for my