PowerBook Socket--Neat; what is it?

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Table of Contents for this issue:
Old DA: Retriever II?
Re: Where to find Claris Resolve
Re: Two Printer Problems
Re: 800K Disks
Where to Clip?
Mac 128K/512K Sweep/Power Supply?
Re: LC II, HP DeskWriter C, 7.5 Printing
IBM Hard Disk Jumpers?
Netscape on Older Macs
Mac II Video and General Questions?
Re: When is a Modem a Modem
Re: Mirror Monitors: A Dim Outlook
Re: Two Printer Problems

[Moderator's Note: The following is an installment of articles that Mr. Manuel Mejia has
been nice enough to create concerning web page creation on Classic Macs.
This feature will appear consecutively in each Digest from now until the end
of the series.]

Creating Web Pages Using Classic Macs Pt 3


Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 08:48:33 -0600
To: classic-post
From: D. Buchner
Subject: PowerBook Socket--Neat; what is it?

I just got a big ole' PowerBook 170. When I bought it, the guy said it
doesn't have an internal modem, but now I get to looking, and it seems to
have *something* installed where the modem would be. It's not an RJ11
connector like you'd expect, more like a standard round serial port, but
with more (and squarer) pins. Does anyone have a suggestion about what this
might be? My first thought was some kind of ethernet or othernet connector,
but that doesn't make this plug any more familiar. . . Perhaps it's a rare
and wonderful and extremely valuable thing I could exchange for an internal
modem?

David Buchner


Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 22:38:32 +0200
To: classic-post
From: J de Groote
Subject: Old DA: Retriever II

I am still using:

Retriever Light a fully functional ADWARE product.

I am looking for :

Retriever II, a flat-file database, which ships as both a Da and a
application and ads many advanced features

Retriever is a database desk accessory for the macintosh which was released
as a commercial product by Exodus Sofware in 1988. A flat-file database,
which ships as both a Da and a application and ads many advanced features.

mvg JDEG


To: classic-post
Subject: Re: Where to find Claris Resolve?
From: Sascha Welter
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 00:05:28 +0200

Subject: Where to find Claris Resolve?

Do any "Classic Gurus" out there know where I can buy a copy of "Claris
Resolve"?

I need a stand-alone spreadsheet (I know I could get Clarisworks, But I
already have MacWrite Pro, and FileMaker Pro) and I could buy "Excell" but I
refuse to support MicroSoft with their "windoze" interface.

Sadly, I have sent over 10 seperate E-Mail messages to Claris Corporation,
but no one ever replies. (...and I still love their software)

I know this is a discontinued product, but it would work seamlessly with my
existing applications (including MacProject Pro). ...'anyone out there know
where it can be found?

Ken Ballard

MacWorld has an article in their current issue about Wingz 2.1. They say
Wingz used to be the engine inside Claris Resolve.

It's also said to be fast and powerful (rated 4 Stars and 8.0) and is
said to run "comfortably on a laptop, in 4MB of RAM."

No information on system requirements for classic Macs.

It's $399 - http://www.wingz.com

(And I've got nothing on with this company whatsoever ... just saw this
article.)

Regards,
Sascha
http://www.access.ch/private-users/swelter/


To: Classic Post
Subject: Re: Two Printer Problems
From: Sascha Welter
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 00:05:32 +0200

I have two problems with which I need some help. I checked the archives
and could not find similar problems. My father-in-law has an old Mac LC II
with 4 meg of memory connected to an HP DeskWriter C. Up until last week
this setup worked fine. He previously had System 7.1 installed and
installed 7.5.1 last week. From that point forward he has been unable to
print properly. Here are some of the symptom of his problems:

1. On startup, if the HP is on, the printer prints a page with junk on it.
Spurious characters in reverse printing come out on the top and bottom of
the page.

Could this be possible:

When switching to system 7.5 it could be the installer switched on
appletalk and now tryes to access the DeskWriter through that protocol
and not via the normal serial mode?

I've once tryed to run an Imagewriter II on AppleTalk and it just
printed gibberish. (No AppleTalk-Card on that ImageWriter II).

Try going to the chooser and switch off AppleTalk (lower right corner).

How can I get rid of the
printers in the chooser or teach the Mac to gracefully exit the program?

In the finder: Open the system folder, move out the printer drivers (out
of the system folder).

Maybe in System 6.0.8 you have to use Suitcase/DA-Mover to do this?
(Maybe someone else will know more on it on System 6).

BTW: If you want your kid to be able to print somehow, try something
like eDOC, which is a print-to-a-selfreading-document printer driver.
It's found in the usual shareware sites, but I don't know for its System
6 savvyness ...

Regards,
Sascha
http://www.access.ch/private-users/swelter/


From: Tina
To: classic-post
Subject: Re: 800K Disks?
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 00:55:29 +-200

What's all the fuzz about? My MacPlus just eats HD disks and reformat them,
no tape or labels needed.

[MODERATOR'S NOTE: Tina, the fuzz is that, on a machine with a SuperDrive,
you must fake it into thinking that a 1.44MB disk is really an 800K disk by
covering-up the little notch opposite the write-protect notch. Otherwise,
the drive will treat it as a high-density disk. If your machine has 400K
or 800K drives, they can't detect and won't care about 1.44MB disks, so if
you put one in your Plus' drive, you're right--you won't need to do
anything.]

Tina


From: Tina
To: classic-post
Subject: Where to Clip?
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 01:09:11 +-200

While waiting for a payable screen (or some money) for the Mac IIfx I've
got my gready fingers in, and since I've gotten quite addicted to all you
folks, I would like to get my dear old MacPlus on the net. (Right now I've
sneaked in here on this windoze pentium intel inside monster, but it's
going away by 1st of june)

The dearest one, my MacPlus, already has the max. 4 mb installed, but I've
never gotten 'round to clip whatever it is.

Somewhere on the net I once saw a diagram of a Plus where I could see where
the little dingy was located on the board, but I can't find it anymore. The
browser says "File not found". Can anyone tell me where to find it?

The rest should be easy as I've understood it, I'll just go to JAG's site
and pick up the software I need. Have I got that right?

And to Apple's ftp's for system 7.0.1?

The final question: When I've installed system 7.0.1, will the dearest then
be able to read PC disks? (So I can download from this one)

BTW, one thing more, I'm only going to use it for email I guess, so will I
do allright with my two 20 mb harddrives?

More Macs to the people
Tina


Date: Sun, 27 Apr 97 19:22:07
To: classic-post
From: rjzambo
Subject: Mac 128K/512K Sweep/Power Supply?

Does anybody know where I can get a replacement flyback transformer and
schematics(or service manual) for Mac 128k/512k sweep/powersupply?.I have tried the usual sources Pre Owned Electronics and Sunrem.

Thanks
Robert Zamboni


From: CurtHiker
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 22:09:55 -0400 (EDT)
To: classic-post
Subject: Re: LC II, HP DeskWriter C, 7.5 Printing

My father-in-law has an old Mac LC II with 4
meg of memory connected to an HP DeskWriter C. Up until last week this setup
worked fine. He previously had System 7.1 installed and installed 7.5.1 last
week. From that point forward he has been unable to print properly. Here are
some of the symptom of his problems:

1. On startup, if the HP is on, the printer prints a page with junk on it.
Spurious characters in reverse printing come out on the top and bottom of the
page.

2. When he requests a print, the LC goes about its business, preparing, then
spooling, then comes back with a message indicating the printer is not
responding and make sure it is connected - ok to continue or cancel. Sometimes
this message is replaced by an unexpected error #-97 message, sometimes not.

This type of problem did not occur until he moved to 7.5.1. Some times it comes
back and discretely indicates the serial port is in use. We are both rather confused.

Just to check basics, but I think the 7.5 setup defaulted to AppleTalk
on, and probably set the printer as being attached to the modem port
(default setting). Turn AppleTalk off in the chooser, select the HP
DeskWriter C in the Chooser and then select Printer Port. The other
possibility is that you need a new HP DeskWriter C Printer Driver
compatible with 7.5; you can get the update software free at the HP web
site.

Curt Kiest


Subject: IBM Hard Disk Jumpers?
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 97 01:11:03 -0400
From: hilal
To: Classic Macs

hello,

i am trying to put a 340mb ibm hard disk into my IIci. the problem is
that when i startup my mac with silverlining (to format the drive), i get
a message saying there is a problem in my scsi chain. i think it is
because the ibm hard disk is not terminated. there is a group of jumpers
on the hard disk, next to the scsi plug. any ideas as to what i am not
doing right? are the jumpers used to to change the scsi i.d.?

thanks
hilal


Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 00:43:43 -0600
To: classic-post
From: David G. Wood
Subject: Netscape on Older Macs

There has been some mention in recent posts to the effect that Netscape
Navigator will only work on Macs with a 68030 or later chip. This is not
correct.

Netscape Navigator version 3.01 comes with an installer that allows the
user to select the type of Mac the user has. Here is a snipet from the
Version 3.01 "Read Me":

"The installer will allow you to choose which type of
"Navigator to place on your hard disk. You can select a
"version designed to run on 68000 machines, Power
"Macintoshes, or a FAT binary for any Macintosh.

I am running NN version 2.01 on my Mac LC (68020) very successfully. Ver.
2.01 asks for 4296K but I give it 5296K and have the extension
NetscapeDefrost ver.0.9b2 and have no "freeze" problems. I even ran version
3.01 for a while on my 68020 Mac, but went back to V2.01 since V3.01 wanted
more RAM (12 - 16 MB) than I could give it.

Hope this helps clear up some confusion.

David
David G. Wood (Dave & Babs)
http://w3.trib.com/~dwood/


Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 11:09:44 -0400
To: classic-post
From: John Ruschmeyer
Subject: Mac II Video and General Questions?

Hi!

This weekend I picked up a used Mac II (no letters) at the Trenton Computer
Festival (4/0 with 6881 for $15, was I taken?). I have a few questions
about the video card in the system as well as some gneral questions:

1) The video card installed is an Apple 820-0198-A7 "Macintosh II Video
Card".

- Is this a color or mono card?
- What resolutions is this card capable of?
- It appears to have 256K installed. Can I upgrade to 512K by adding chips? If so, what kind?
- Can I hookup an VGA monitor to it (with an appropriate adapter)? What adapter would I need?
- I also have an old 19" Hitachi fixed frequency monitor (workstation monitor with seperate BNC connectors). Could I use that? If so, what would I need?

2) The system has 4MB RAM. Do I need special SIMMs or can I use regular
1x8, 30 pin, 8-chip ones?

3) How can I tell if the Superdrive upgrade was done?

4) Any other upgrades that I should check for?

Thanks... John


Subject: Re: When is a Modem a Modem
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 97 12:17:30 -0500
From: sdropkin
To: Classic Posts

Are modems compatible in either the IBM and/or Apple realms?

Yup. You will need a different modem cable, of course, and whatever
software they bundled with the modem will not work on MacOS. The only
other thing you may need to do is to specify "&D0" in your modem INIT
string. The "&D0" tells the modem to ignore the DTR signal since Mac high
speed modem cables don't carry it. FWIW, I cart a Practical Peripherals
MacClass MT336 between a PeeCee and Power PC Mac all the time. No
problems at all.

sdropkin


Subject: Re: Mirror Monitors: A Dim Outlook
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 97 12:17:34 -0500
From: sdropkin
To: Classic Posts

A while back I set my mother-in-law up with an SE/30 and a Mirror
full-page monitor -- if you recall they made the highest rated (and at
times the _only_) external monitor for the compact Macs.

Well, the monitor is starting to dim. I'm not sure if that's a CRT
problem (in which case I can't imagine that it's worth getting repaired)
or something else, but I can't find a place to get it repaired. Mirror's
out of business, the company that took over its assets seems to be out of
business, and that's as far as I can track the situation.

Does the monitor require a PDS ("SE Expansion Slot") card in the SE? If
not, it would be fairly easy to move it to another system; that will rule
out SE-specific problems. If you can start without extensions, that will
rule out non-System software that's wreaking havoc with the monitor.

I have some info on Mirror's successor; I don't know if this is the
company you mention in your post. Maybe it's helpful.

Mirror, a division of Tech Squared, Inc.
5198 West 76th Street
Edina, Minnesota 55439 USA

For product information and ordering, contact our sales department toll-free, 24 hours
per day at 1-800-654-5294 or fax at 612-832-5709. In Minnesota or outside of the U.S.,
call 612-830-1549.

For technical support, dial toll-free 1-800-323-9285 or direct at
612-633-2105.
Technical Support hours are Monday thru Friday, 8:30am to 5:00pm
Central Time. Technical support's fax number is 612-831-7770.

The only other suggestion I have is to take the monitor to a TV repair
shop (not Best Buy or Circuit City, but a real old-fashioned TV shop);
you may find that they can diagnose the problem and repair it at minimal
cost.

sdropkin


Subject: Re: Two Printer Problems
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 97 12:17:36 -0500
From: sdropkin
To: Classic Posts

1. On startup, if the HP is on, the printer prints a page with junk on it.

[snip]

2. When he requests a print, the LC goes about its business, preparing, then
spooling, then comes back with a message indicating the printer is not
responding and make sure it is connected - ok to continue or cancel. Sometimes
this message is replaced by an unexpected error #-97 message, sometimes not.
This type of problem did not occur until he moved to 7.5.1. Some times it comes
back and discretely indicates the serial port is in use. We are both rather
confused.

He has rebuilt the desktop, reinstalled 7.5.1 and flipped the printer
cable.

You mean he'd seriously consider replacing a working system with an
inferior expensive headache? :-P

Has he upgraded the printer driver? Get the latest usable one from HP's
Web site. It may be that the current driver is corrupt (do it right and
blow away the old one, Extensions and Preferences and all). It also may
be that the version he has just doesn't work well with 7.5 or something
it loads on startup. You could try starting with Extensions off (shift
key down as you boot the Mac) to see if that fixes the problem; if it
does, you can load Extensions and Control Panels systematically to figure
out the offender.

He would like to blow away 7.5.1 and reinstall 7.1 but is not sure how to perform
this action.

When you start the 7.5 install program, you can do a Shift-Command-K at
the first screen; one of the choices in this dialog box is to cleanly
remove 7.5.

sdropkin


Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 12:50:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: Manuel Mejia
To: Classic Posts
Subject: Creating Web Pages Using Classic Macs Pt 3

Basics in HTML Programming

People can spends hours just going over the basics of how to create web
pages using HTML code. It is not practical to go over this topic here.
What one should do to learn more about HTMP is to go out an buy a good
book on the subject. My recommendation would be 'Teach Yourself Web
Publishing with HTML 3.0 in a week, First or Second Edition by Laura Lemay
(Sams.Net Publishing, 1995 or 1996). This book was easy to read and
written by a person who creates here web pages using a Macintosh. The
Fourth edition is in the bookstores--now is a good time to see if one can
get a used copy of the second or first edition.

Rather than go through HTML codes directly (such a discussion is beyond
the scope of the digest), I will discuss the pitfalls that one will
encounter in web page creation.

A. Old Browsers--If one want to create a state of the art web page with
mpeg movie files, jpg images, or .wav sound files, you may have to go to
either a power PC or an 68040 processor machine. Older macs like the 68020
processor ones are basically too slow to run these files effectively. In
any case, the older browsers like MacWeb 1.1.1e cannot support such files.
Mac Wb 1.1.1e will not even support the placement of images on the center
or right side of the web page !

B. Tables and Frames--Tables are those nice looking rectangles that hold
text, images, or links to other web pages. Frames split the displayed web
page into 2 or more screen that can be scrolled independently from one
another. Frames look good on large screen monitors like the 17 inch
but are less effective on the smaller 13 inch monitors. MacWeb along with
with Netscape 2.00 and Internet Explorer 2.0 will not support either
frames and/or tables. Netscape 2.2 and Internet Explorer 2.1 overcame the
frame problem. Internet Explorer 2.1 was being distributed in the Dec.
1996 issue of Macworld on CD rom. If one want to create a frame, a table,
and/or a jpg link or image, there is nothing in the computer that stops
you from doing so-you just cannot see those features on the computer using
an old browser.

C. Netscape 2.0 defect--One some Macs like the Quadra 605 or 650, there
is a software bug that blacks out any web page tha has a background color
or "wall paper" that was created using a gif image for background. My web
page (www.magicnet.net/~bwynn/thor.html) is not visible on these machines
when Netscape Navigator is used. People using such Macs should have MacWeb
or another browser as backup. Optimally, one shoud have a second or even a
third browser to view a web page that is under construction to see how it
looks. There are variations in presentation from one browser to the next.

Fullproof web page features:

These features are universally supported by all graphic based browsers.

a. ordered lists
b. unordered lists
c. all sorts of static gif images ('animated' gifs are supported by
Netscape 2.2)
d. lines with or without shading
e. Links to other pages

Even with this list of universial items, one can do quite of bit of web
page creation using a Classic Mac.

Manuel Mejia, Jr.
Tampa, FLA.


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