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Table of Contents for this issue:
Classic Freezing?
SE/30 Video Weirdness?
PowerBook 100 and Beyond...
Plus as a Web Server?
StyleWriter I and Canon BubbleJet
Re: Lynx on a Mac: Fine; What Now
Creating System 1 Boot Disks: Very Tricky
Lynx on a Mac
MacLynx is Coming...
Re: Eudora Light 3.0.* on 68000 Macs
My SE's Got Its Heart Set on 2MB RAM?

Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 17:57:12 +0700
To: Classic Posts
From: Darwin Visker
Subject: Classic Freezing?

I am a teacher at AUA Language center in Bangkok, Thailand. One of my jobs is to maintain an old working Classic for one of the secretarys and the core staff. We also have five other PCs running windows programs.This old computer still out performs the other newer computers in the office for ease of use. I am having a problem with it however. It works fine with the exception that it freezes up after sitting idle for about thirty minutes to an hour. I can't locate what is causing the problem. I recently updated it to system 6.0.8 but it had the same problem before I did this also. All the applications work fine except for it freezing up. There are five or six applications including word 5.1a and Excel. The only thing that I can think of doing is to reformat the hard drive and reinstall everything. I don't have any of the original disks, they have been lost over the years and I will have to copy everything off of the hard drive. It has 2 megabytes of ram and 40 megabytes on the hard drive. Any suggestions as to what I can do that might resolve this problem will be much appreciated. One last point can I install system 7.1 with the current configuration without installing more ram, and if I can will this slow the computer down much? Thanks very much.

Darwin Visker

Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 21:56:03 -0800
From: Andrew Duggan
To: Classic Posts
Subject: SE/30 Video Weirdness?

I have a question about an SE/30,

I recently got an SE/30 that when I turn it on I get Black and grey stripes. I noticed it had an internal video board for an external monitor so I figured I would take it out to see if that was effecting it. No change. However when I had the cover off I noticed that one of the dioded (a small grey cirular thing) had broken off. I was wandering if this might be the source of my problem or if it is something else.


Andrew Duggan

Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 22:53:41 -0400
To: Classic Posts
From: Nick Canterucci
Subject: PowerBook 100 and Beyond...

two quick questions..has anyone heard about the new Nicad batteries that are now being retro fitted in the PB 100,replacing the older lead acid battery that came with them in 1991-1992 ?? and can you use them in the PB 100 battery charger ? (external)

Also does anyone know where I can download a version of mac ppp 2.0.1? the recent one I did download was corrupted!

also pt 2...found a another copy of that EARLY version of the Larry Pina book on early macs..the 128,512,528,Lisa,and SE..and comes with a software floppy to test those early macs...if anyone NEEDS me a price plus 4.00 u.s. mail shipping and it's yours!

starting to get some of those early macs from two 512' complete,,and one that has been torned down,,i.e. analog board,sony floppy, logoc/motherboard,picture tube..yers for a SONG plus shipping..

also got a SE..2.5mb ram 20 hd...very nice mouse...

have a SE collection of parts...analog board,CRT,logic/motherboard which came OUTTA SE SUPERDRIVE!

also a colour classic..8mb ram/200 hd KB/mouse....

hopefully soon, I can get my hands on the rest of the 528's (4) SE's 800k (5) SE's 1.4 FDHD (7) and 6 colour classics...

so this is a good chance for all vintage mac users to get this stuff, keep it running...



From: JAG
Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 02:24:07 -0500 (CDT)
To: Classic Posts
Subject: Plus as a Web Server?

Hi All

I know you can use NetPrezence to make any Mac from a Plus up a web server. I've done it with my Centris. I'd like to do it with a Plus, but was wondering if I just need to Appletalk the Plus to the Centris and have the Centris be the server and then make it so you could access the Plus thru the Centris. Or do I just use the Plus in the same way that I am using the Centris as a web server?

If so that means I have to have networking running, I have to update my web page with the IP address (which changes every time I get online and requires Claris Home page because I cheated and don't know HTML) and then I have to run Fetch to upload the page to my ISP. Doing all that is much easier and faster on the Centris, but I would like to have the Plus made into a web server so I can show all my PC using friends how easy it is to get an 11 yr old Plus on the web as a server.

I don't have a 24/7 connection, (I have to be online when I make the Mac a web server, I have 3 hours online before timeout).

Many Thanks


Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 08:39:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kenneth R Browne
Subject: StyleWriter I and Canon BubbleJet
To: Classic Posts

I confess to owning a PC in addition to my MAC SE30 (which BTW is still giving me fits getting PPP and apps working right) but here's some free (and worth every penny of its price) advice about cartridges for the Stylewriter inkjet printer. It's the same printer as the Canon Bubblejet (I have a Canon BJC210) and the cartridges are interchangeable. They are also *refillable*. It's pretty easy but there are two keys. One: don't let it run completely dry. If you do you'll have the problem described by Nathan Marler where the ink needed to gravitate down to the printhead...or it could even be damaged by drying out. Two: don't OVERFILL or at lease keep a tissue *very* handy so that when the fill hole starts to overflow, you can catch the spill.

BTW the Canon printer drivers include a head cleaning routine, so you can "prime the pump" so to speak.


[MODERATOR'S NOTE: So here's my question: If I want to clean the print head on my StyleWriter I (NOT II), then how do I do it? There are no such provisions in my driver software that came with System 7.0.1.]

To: Classic Posts
Subject: Re: Lynx on a Mac: Fine; What Now
From: Amitai Schlair
Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 10:09:11 -0500

Well, they're not exactly cryptic... but yes, you have to learn some keyboard equivalents. Your ISP should have lynx set up in beginner mode by default, so that the program shows many of the keyboard commands along the bottom of the screen. Play around with those to see what they do, and definitely read the help screen on navigation. ('g' to enter a URL, for example.)

lynx is a damn good browser. I think you'll like it.

Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 23:26:21 -0500
To: Classic Posts
From: Jag
Subject: Lynx on a Mac: Fine; What Now?

Thanks for the info on Lynx. I have accessed my isp via Zterm and Telnet many times. The question is: where do i go from there? How do I SURF web sites as LeMay did? Do I need to know some cryptic code commands or what? I bought my Mac to get away from all that stuff.


Amitai Schlair

Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 10:36:16 +0100
To: Classic Posts
From: Jon Gaines
Subject: Creating System 1 Boot Disks: Very Tricky


As you probably know, creating a System 1 boot disk on a late-model Mac can be a little tricky. System 1 was pre-HFS (Hierarchical File System), so making a boot disk on a recent Mac running a later System creates problems. Even if you can drag the System files that you want to a freshly formatted 400K disk, that disk may fail to boot early machines. Some attempts at this will be luckier than others. The early Mac 64K ROMs definitely are less tolerant of badly copied disks than later issues.

There are two reliable ways that I know of to create a 400K boot disk. Both methods require you to have a working System 1 boot disk before you even start, so if you have no such disk, it's back to square one (sorry, an American expression, I think).

1) Create a new System disk by dragging files between floppies on a 128K or 512K Mac. Boot the Mac from the working System 1 disk, format a new disk, and copy all the System files to the new disk.

2) Create a System 1 copy using Apple's Disk Copy v4.2 or earlier. On a newer Mac (but preferrably NOT a PowerMac, I don't know why), make a disk image of the known working copy of System 1, then create a copy of the disk from that new image file. Save the disk image of System 1 on a hard disk, and you'll be able to make copies of it any time you want.

Note: don't use the latest version of Disk Copy (6.1.2) for this function; it has trouble with 400K disks.
You say you're also having trouble with Systems 3.0 and 5.1, but those Systems are usually found on 800K disks, which your Fat Mac can't read. What was the source of those disks?

Jon Gaines

Now the problem: there is something funny about those 400k drives.

I try to boot a 512k with system 1.0 but the bootprocess hangs just after the "welcome to Macintosh" message. the same happens with sys. 3.0 and 5.1. Sys. 1.0 worked earlier without problems. but while changing with option/command to a newer system that didnt boot rightaway, I think sys 1.0 got corrupted. :-(

all systems work fine on a 512Ke and a SE, but the fat mac is giving me problems (I tried to use a downloaded version of the systems, but it failed to work.

has anyone experienced the same problems? please contact me at simski or in this newsgroup. (ps I'm allways in for old system-stuff up to 1989. send me a list with what you got, not the software itself.)

Simon Claessen
Amsterdam, Holland

Subject: Lynx on a Mac
Date: Sat, 17 May 97 11:38:55 -0400
From: Patrick Gardella
To: Classic Posts

Does anybody know where (or IF) you can get Lynx to work on a Mac?


She has screen shots of it in her book, so I know it'll run on a Mac

AFAIK, there is no Lynx for mac at the moment. I guess the screenshots were taken from a mac telnet-session running Lynx on a UNIX-system.

I have heard that a mac port of Lynx may be coming in the future, though.

Actually, there is an alpha version that is being tested as we speak (read). It's a pretty stable version, and is for both 680x0 and PPCs. It is not beta, but will be *soon*. The author <gutkneco has it up to Alpha 5 as of 5/10/97. If you are interested, you might contact him, and ask if you can beta test it. Sounds as if he is being very thorough before he releases it. No info yet on cost, if any.

I found it at: . That page lists all the versions of Lynx availible for all the platforms.

Patrick S. Gardella
Webmaster - Christian Word Ministries

Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 09:47:53 -0800
To: Classic Posts
From: Michelle Klein-Hass
Subject: MacLynx is Coming....

Does anybody know where (or IF) you can get Lynx to work on a Mac?


She has screen shots of it in her book, so I know it'll run on a Mac

AFAIK, there is no Lynx for mac at the moment. I guess the screenshots were taken from a mac telnet-session running Lynx on a UNIX-system.

I have heard that a mac port of Lynx may be coming in the future, though.

MacLynx is indeed on the way. The guy who's working on it says the 68K version will support '030 based Macs, although I didn't ask about 68000 or 68020.

There's a Usenet newsgroup called comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac (yes, it's a real mouthful) and that's where I heard about it. Interested parties should monitor the newsgroup for further information.

I'm looking forward to MacLynx myself...great for the times when I just want to surf to get information, not a dog-and-pony show.

Take care,

Michelle Klein-Hass: Web Goddess/Animation Nerd/Troublemaker
Catseye Creative Services --

Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 01:21:31 +1100
To: Classic Posts
From: "Richard C. Kempe"
Subject: Re: Eudora Light 3.0.* on 68000 Macs

On 13/05/97 at 01:13:33 Matti Haveri wrote:

I've been using Eudora Light 1.5.5 on a Plus and PB100 with no problems.

Has someone experiences with Eudora Light 3.0.* on 68000 macs (Plus, SE, Portable, Classic and PowerBook 100)? Does it work? Is it much slower than v1.5.5?

Yes, Matti, I've run Eudora Light 3.0.1, 3.0.2, and now 3.1 on my SE with no problems whatsoever [unlike some - hello Nathan!]. I've noticed no significant speed decrease from v 1.5.3, the version I was using prior to upgrading to 3.x.x. The major advantage of 3.x.x, of course, is message filtering, which works very nicely...

I've also heard that Claris Emailer 1.0 works - any experiences about that?

Can't comment on Emailer v 1.0, but I can assure you that no later version (1.1v2, 1.1v3 or 1.1v4) will run on 68000 Macs - they all require colour QuickDraw. I would assume v 1.0 would be the same.



[MODERATOR'S NOTE: Hello, Richard. Richard has had considerable success running unbelievably recent versions of software that shouldn't even run on his SE, such as Eudora Light 3.0.x and a MacPPP that has the same requirements as FreePPP. I have tried both on my SE (4MB/160MB/System 7.0.1) and none of them worked. Eudora 3.0.x crashes when I try to make a nickname, which is necessary for my creation of the Digest. The quasi-FreePPP crashed and burned when my SE tried to load its PPP extension. Caveat emptor if you try it, people. But on the flip side, I can run Claris Emailer 1.0v3 on my SE, when most other people seem to need a 68020 minimum. What a world... -- Nathan Marler, Moderator]

Richard C. Kempe
Springwood, N.S.W. Australia

Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 15:29:24 -0500 (CDT)
From: James Lewis Dering
To: Classic Posts
Subject: My SE's Got Its Heart Set on 2MB RAM

Hi everyone! First, I want to say thanks very much to everyone who responded to a recent posting of mine regarding getting a Plus on the internet. You guys are great.

And if you will perm mit me, here's another question:

I've got an SE with 2 megs RAM. A while back I tried to install 2 more SIMMs to get it to 4 megs. It never read them, so I assumed it was bad RAM. Recently, I've bought two more SIMMs, and I've gotten the same result. Could I have damaged slots, even with two of them working fine? If so, is it possible (and maybe even inexpensive) to get the problem fixed? What should I do?

Thanks in advance!

James Dering

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