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Table of Contents for this issue:
laserwriter plus print driver
Montreal Service Providers
Sad SE
Changing battery and RAM on a classic II
Reflex Plus relational database
External video for Color Classic?
Aox Doubletime accelerator for SE
Disk Formatting
Radius Pivot II video card
Interfacing GV Bronze II to Mac Plus
system 6.0.3
400K floppies
Re: Powerbook memory
Re: Powerbook memory
AEHD+ Drive
Re: Classic Macs Digest 970902
Beyond 4MB
Beyond 4MB
Re: Beyond 4MB RAM
Hard Drive 20
PB memory and harddrive
Real Audio

To: Classic Posts
From: sneakcat
Date: 28 Sep 97 14:54:52 -0500
Subject: laserwriter plus print driver

I am looking for a laserwriter plus print driver for a printer that was
donated to the school I teach at. It seems harder to locate than you
would think. I am trying to appletalk network mac SE's to it. Also I
have one question about appleshare: What is the latest version that
will work on mac SE's or is there a way I can have more than ten
computers online with one server at one time? Thanks for your time .

John Coffman

To: Classic Posts
From: hamr
Date: 28 Sep 97 14:55:22 -0500
Subject: Montreal Service Providers

I would like to hear from anyone who has found an internet service
provider in Montreal which is able to provide email and other service
for a Mac Classic II with a Hayes 14400 modem.

I have upgraded the memory and have already successfully gotten
online with this computer and modem in Toronto, but when I sent the
computer to my brother in Montreal, he could not find a service
provider in Montreal which works. All of the address changes for new
providers have been correctly input; He has not changed the
initialization string. Their tech people can't figure it out either.

Any ideas?

Lee Hamr
Oakville, Ontario, Canada

To: Classic Posts
From: meberly
Date: 28 Sep 97 14:55:54 -0500
Subject: Sad SE

I just brought this SE home and not two days later, I get
the Sad Mac Icon.

It was working just fine for two days and I was attempting
to network it with an SE/30 when, after running for about 10
mins, the screen gets lines all across it. I restart ed and
I get the Sad Mac Icon with the numbers 00000004 and
00000040 below. I understand these codes give some clue as
to what it going wrong, but I don't have a decoder.

It has 4 megs of ram, running OS 6.0.1 and had a 40 MB hard
drive above the dual floppy drives. The hard drive spins, so
from what I've read, thats a good sign, right?

I would appreciate any advise you might have. Thank you,
Matt Eberly

To: Classic Posts
From: rrome
Date: 28 Sep 97 14:55:54 -0500
Subject: Changing battery and RAM on a classic II

Greeting all.

I have always been fascinated by the beauty of the compact

I just bought a Classic II from a friend for $ 50.00 (I had offered more,
she's a true friend) and I would like to do some work in it's innards.

It needs a new battery (forgets the date) and I also want to upgrade
it to 10 MB of RAM (has 4 now).

Are there any suggestions you can give me on how to proceed?

I have all the tools (case spreader and screwdrivers) but have no idea of
what to expect when I open it.

Romulo Romero

To: Classic Posts
From: angst2
Date: 28 Sep 97 14:56:26 -0500
Subject: Reflex Plus relational database: requesting assis

I have an old Reflex Plus relational database that was formerly a
Borland Product. It was a highly rated software in the 80's but
somehow disappeared. My files are originally on my SE; however, I can
run it only under 24-bit mode on my PB 180c. Is there any way that I
can have it run under 32-bit mode so that I don't have to quit my
programs and reset the memory control panel? Or, does anybody out
there know of a Reflex Plus version that runs under 32-bit mode?
Exporting to Filemaker Pro has not kept my link structures intact.

Please e-mail.

Many Thanks,
Ron Reblando
(513) 621-9523

To: Classic Posts
From: bjohnson
Date: 28 Sep 97 14:56:26 -0500
Subject: External video for Color Classic?


I have a Color Classic (8MB memory and system 7.5.3) with and external CD
drive that is used to run educational CD's in a first-grade classroom. We
are limited in the CD's that we can buy since many CD-ROMs require at least
640x480. I was wondering if there were any video cards compatible with the
Color Classic's LC-style PDS slot? If there is such a product available
where can i get it?

Thanks for any info you can share.

Brian Johnson

To: Classic Posts
From: adrianw
Date: 28 Sep 97 14:56:58 -0500
Subject: Aox Doubletime accelerator for SE

Hi All,

I picked up an Aox Doubletime accelerator for my SE cheap yesterday. It has a
68000-16 on board - presumably it runs at 16MHz, instead of just the normal 8.
I plugged it into my SE and it seems to work OK, but of course it came with no
documentation etc. Can anyone tell me anything about it? Like what are the two
connectors and the big empty IC socket are for? Thanks,

Dr Adrian Whichello

To: Classic Posts
From: gordon
Date: 28 Sep 97 14:56:58 -0500
Subject: MAC SE

my step-daughter got an old Mac SE (i'm a PC dweeb), this has a small 20
meg HDD, 1 meg of RAM, and the 800k FDD. i bought her a USR 33.6 sportster

so, she wants to get on the `net. where's a source for browsers, TCP
software, and un-archivers (to unarchive all the software) that'll run on
this thing?


To: Classic Posts
From: kenf
Date: 28 Sep 97 14:57:28 -0500
Subject: Disk Formatting

Someone told me that it is possible to trick the Apple disk formatting
software into formatting a non-Apple brand disk. Anyone know anything
about this?


[MODERATOR: There is a patched version available (I think) on the info-mac
archive to do this.]

To: Classic Posts
From: jsr
Date: 28 Sep 97 14:57:58 -0500
Subject: Radius Pivot II video card

Does anyone know where I can find a Pivot video card, or know of any other
way to hook up an old Pivot(Model 0276) to a Mac IIvx? Also looking for
info on hooking up a Radius TPD/19 to a IIvx. I'm about to go out and grab
a sync adaptor, but if there is a circuit I can build myself or a cheap
adaptor out there somewhere...


To: Classic Posts
From: MJFriese
Date: 28 Sep 97 14:58:30 -0500
Subject: Interfacing GV Bronze II to Mac Plus

I posted this before Classic Posts took a haitus and I don't think it was
ever posted:

[MODERATOR: I think it was, but what the heck. It's pretty
neat. I've done a similar thing, except using an external
power supply instead of the keyboard power tap.]

I have successfully interfaced a Global Village Teleport Bronze II modem
to a Mac Plus.

The GlobalFax Bronze II modem was bundled with Performas some time ago.
They look almost identical to the Teleport 56K modems Global Village is
currently shipping. Though nifty looking, the Bronze is an almost
minimally useful 2400 baud - good only for chat and e-mail - but the fax
portion is 9600 baud which is the fastest most fax machines support.

Not only are these old modems nifty looking that can be useful too. I
have set up three of my trailing-edge friends with old toaster Macs, a
Teleport Bronze II, and a separate screen-name on my main AOL account.

One of my friends is on a job search. Right at this moment she is using
one of my old Mac Pluses to fax resumes to about 40 potential employers.
What little workhorses these old machines are! Her Plus is running 7.5.3,
she is editing her cover letters with WordPerfect 3.1, and she has Global
Village Fax Center launched too! And she is faxing using an old Global
Village Teleport.

The problem with using these modems on a Plus is they get their power
from the ADB (keyboard/mouse) port, not found on the poor old Plus. So I
made a special keyboard cable that tapped the +5 volt power from the Plus
keyboard cable to a ADB connector (sold as a S-video connector at Radio

Here are the instructions to make the cable:
- Remove the keyboard cable from the Plus.

- Looking from the cord end of one of these connectors you will see the
four wires, yellow, green, red, black. Here's how the connector looks
when viewed from the cord end:

(Use non-proportional font)

| |
____ | | ____
| |
| Yl Gn Rd Bk |
| |

- Cut the outer insulating jacket about one inch from one of the two

- Cut insulation from the yellow and black wires. Solder a two foot long
red wire to the keyboard cable's yellow wire. Solder a two foot long
black wire to the keyboard cable's black wire.

- Get a female mini-din (S-video) connector. Viewing from the solder end,
you'll notice the pins arranged in a trapezoid pattern.

o o

o o (solder end view)

- Solder the red wire to the upper left pin. Solder the black wire to the
upper right pin

r b

o o (solder end view)

- Insulate all your splices.

- Plug the keyboard cable in with the splices closest to the Mac Plus
system unit.

- Plug the Bronze II into the modem port and the other modem cable into
the s-video cable.

You now have a snazzy-looking 2400 baud modem attached to your Plus. But
wait. There's more!

The fax software bundled with the Performa will work with the Plus, but
the hot ticket is to use the fax software bundled with the Teleport
Platinum. This software is slick as can be. If you read a review on
Global Village modems, the reviewer invariably raves about how nice
the fax software is. If you install this latest fax software on a machine
equipped with a Teleport Bronze, the Teleport control panel even
correctly identifies the Bronze!

Kudos to Global Village to continue supporting dinosaur equipment so
well. It gives me some confidence that GV will continue to support
products I buy today some years down the road. It also results in more
sales for GV because I was so impressed with the GV Bronze and its
software, that I have bought two GV modems for my 8500s.

(If anybody wants to donate their old Teleport Silvers (or faster) to the
purpose of getting old Macs on the internet for trailing edge users,
e-mail me.)


To: Classic Posts
Date: 28 Sep 97 14:58:30 -0500
Subject: system 6.0.3

6.0.3 is early for an se I think you should get system 7.1 if you got
4 megs of ram I use 6.0.8 on my se.


To: Classic Posts
From: tom
Date: 28 Sep 97 14:59:00 -0500
Subject: 400K floppies

I bought a 128K for $6.98 (!), and then bought the mouse and keyboard for
another $25 or so. I'd like to try to get it up and running, but am
having trouble. I grabbed System 1.0 from some archive (I've lost the
bookmark, dammit!), but then faced the problem of putting it on a 400K
disk the 128K would understand.

I tried reformatting a HD (1.4MB) disk on a Power Mac using an old, old
reformatting program called Fast Formatter (available at
But the 128K didn't recognize it: Either there's a problem with trying to
create a 400K disk using the Power Mac's SuperDrive or the 128K's drive
is simply busted.

Any thoughts? Or even any ideas on where I could get working 400K disks
without too much trouble?

Tom Geller, Mac Product Consultant *

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 00:22:54 -0400
To: Classic Posts
From: Nick Canterucci
Subject: Re: Powerbook memory

the maxium amount of ram for the PB 100, is sadly, only 8mb. 2mb was the
standard along with a 20/40 to UPGRADE one must find 2 or more
ram cards for the 100 series..I would try places like Sun,sherieve systems,
or any number of places that sell PB stuff on the net...a good place to
look would be DEJA news, or EBAY...

As far as a bigger HD is concerned, the answer is probably NO! GOOD
example is my PB 160, which came with a 80mb HD...I upgraded to a 500
HD (IBM/APPLE) and ran into all sorts of problems with the motherboard
and battery as the HD was spinning up too quickly for the 160.. I then
tried a 320 hd...and the glitches ALONG with the occasional sad mac icon
went away...I believe the 100 can support up to 320..but a 120HD from
one of the other 100 series works just fine...

via PB 160/and SE-30..

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 00:26:59 -0400
To: Classic Posts
From: Nick Canterucci
Subject: Re: Powerbook memory

mac tcp- has trouble working on plus and SE due to being 68000 macs...

however use Z-term.....and eudora 3.1 works fine on those macs using
system 6. the micromac upgrades are well WORTH the long green...I use
a micromac 50 mhz upgrade in my souped up SE/30 (32mb ram 400 hd @50 mhz-68030)


Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 07:17:30 -0400
From: Robert Poland
Subject: AEHD+ Drive
To: Classic Posts

To: Classic Posts
From: dpointer
Date: 25 Sep 97 18:20:48 -0500
Subject: re: MacPlus and HDFD query Brian Robson

AE made three external floppy disk drives for Macintosh
and Apple II computers.
...1. AEHD PlusDrive--SuperDrive Compatibility for the Mac
Plus, SE and II.(AE PlusDrive...)

Thank-you for the info. The FDHD drive is working with my Plus, but it can
only read 800K disks.

The AEHD+ needs an Extension (old method, less reliable) or a control panel
(latest, most reliable) to read 1.44M disks.

Bob Poland

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 07:19:55 -0400
From: Robert Poland
Subject: Mac II/PMMU
To: Classic Posts

Hello from Sweden! I have got the Mac II with 8 meg RAM.
Do I have to fit in a PMMU to use more than 8 Meg even if
I use PAL RAMs and Mode32? What will happen if I try my
friend4s LCII 4 Meg 30 pin SIMMs in my Mac II? Will they
be "fried"? Thank you very much for your help! -- Mattias

Yes, you need a PMMU to access over 8 meg of ram, even if you use PAL RAM's
or RamDoubler.

I bought my "MDM PMMU01 PMMU Chip Mac II" from Data Memory Systems, Inc.
(800) 662-7466 for $29. They also, Feb. 1997, stocked PAL RAM's for around

Bob Poland

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 09:25:16 -0500
To: Classic Posts
From: Rick Plume
Subject: Re: Classic Macs Digest 970902

JMEYER wrote:

Here are questions
Can MacTCP-PPP and Eudora run under system 6 Software? System 6
is so much faster on my baby Macs.

PPP (version 2.0.1) and MacTCP (version 2.0.6) work fine under System
6.0.8. For E-mail, Eudora 1.3.1 works.

Rick Plume

To: Classic Posts
From: Harold Appel
Subject: Beyond 4MB
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 13:18:20 -0400

I have a Sonnet accelerator for my Macintosh Classic. It says it can use
more than 4 mb of RAM, but that is only with Virtual Software from Connectix.
Apparently this is an older software, because neither Sonnet nor Connectix
lists it. Where can I get it?


The software is called "Compact Virtual" and Connectix no longer sells it.
I have a Micromac accelerator on my Mac Plus and would also love to know
haow to get a copy. Both Connectix and Micromac couldn't help. Anyone have
it? Thanks.



From: Stuart Bell
To: Classic Posts
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 97 08:57:03 BST
Subject: Re: Expanding PB100 memory


All the answers, and many more, are in the PB100 FAQ page, at

Stuart Bell
Acorn user? Visit

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 12:31:21 +0100
To: Classic Posts
From: Donna Hood Pointer
Subject: Re: Beyond 4MB RAM

In response to:

Subject: Beyond 4MB RAM

I have a Sonnet accelerator for my Macintosh Classic. It says it can use
more than 4 mb of RAM, but that is only with Virtual Software from Connectix.
Apparently this is an older software, because neither Sonnet nor Connectix
lists it. Where can I get it?


You probably need Virtual 3.0.2. I am attaching the "Virtual Installation
Disk". If you put it on a diskette you must use a low density one (800K)
And it's exact title must be Virtual Installation Disk. If you don't do
this, the installation process will tell you that you must insert an
original disk. You can copy it with DiskCopy 4.2. I , which will make an
exact copy. You can only copy it onto an 800k diskette. I don't know why. I
have it on loan from Tim at PacificMac who was most helpful in suggesting
that this would solve my problem with the SE's not being able to use more
than 4mb contiguously although I have 16mb installed. I am going to use it
to get my SE with an AE accelerator to see more than 4MB contiguously. I
have 16MB installed an the AE accelerator allows me to see that I have
16MB, but any particular program can only use up to 4mb, although I can run
several programs at once.

Good luck. Donna Pointer

Subject: Hard Drive 20
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 97 09:51:39 -0800
From: "B.J. Major"
To: Classic Posts

In reply to:

To: Classic Posts
From: brobson
Date: 25 Sep 97 18:24:20 -0500
Subject: MacPlus/mounting a hard disk

I just found an Apple Hard Disk 20 (model M0135) that looks like it connects
to the floppy port of my Mac Plus. I'm not sure how to go about testing
and/or using this drive. Will I need to initialize it? How will I know if
the CPU is recognizing it? I assume I would need some utility for such
things. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Brian Robson

I've got one of these and it still works very well. Earlier versions of
System 6.x software contain the "Hard Drive 20" extension/init that you
need for it. It can be initialized/reformatted with the OLD versions of
the Apple HD SC setup utility included with System 6 software. And yes,
the Mac will treat it like a big floppy. You'll know if the CPU is
recognizing it because its icon will (same as Mac hard disk icon) will
show up on the desktop. My Mac Plus boots from this drive.

Enthusiastic Barbie collector and doll-displayer
Apple //, ///, and Macintosh user/supporter/collector

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 13:04:36 +0100
To: Classic Posts
From: Donna Hood Pointer
Subject: PB memory and harddrive

You can max a PB 100 out at 8mb. All you do is install (or have someone
install) one 6mb simm in the expansion slot. If you already have a simm in
their, take it out and replace it with the bigger one. You can get simms
anyplace. Just get the one that goes in the pb100. the max configuration is
the single 2mb that is soldered in plus the 6mb expansion slot chip.

Likewise with the harddrive. all you need is a drive of the type that fits
in the PB100. Two years ago I had someone put a 270mb or 370mb drive in my
PB100, which I got from Sun Remarketing if I recall correctly. If your
pb100 is really old it probably has only a 20mb HD.I think my PB100
originally came with a 20mb internal, but the person I bought it from was
using it as his desktop and he had a 100mb external regular drive attached
to it.

You could call Apple SOS and ask them if there is some maximum size that
the PB100 can address. You need a SCSI drive. NOT AN IDE ONE. SCSI drives
are pretty expensive compared to IDE drives in the huge sizes. A much
cheaper option would be to use a Zip or a Jazz Drive from Iomega. Then you
have the net effect of unlimited harddrive space. Either drive is very
small and light--not much bigger than your external disk drive. Just keep
your system on your internal drive. It will fit. You can't go beyond system
7.5.5. anyways. Warning: This is a BW-only computer. Neither Netscape
(even 1.1) or Internet Explorer will install. I've tried. However Mosaic
(even version 2) should work.

Good luck, Donna Pointer

"To: Classic Posts
From: woodoo
Date: 25 Sep 97 18:30:24 -0500
Subject: memory

I would like to expand the memory in my PB100.
Q.1. Is it possible to expand it to 8-10 Mb RAM
Q.1.a. Wherer can I get those simms?
Q.2 Is it possible to mount a 2.1Gb internal hard disk?


Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 13:10:11 +0100
To: Classic Posts
From: Donna Hood Pointer
Subject: Real Audio

Yes. I have Real Audio 1.0.0 on an se/30. It works fine. I probably got it
from There may even be a more recent version.

To: Classic Posts
From: phil
Date: 25 Sep 97 18:30:56 -0500
Subject: Real Audio & WTB this book

Hi everyone,

Is there a version of Real Audio (or some similar free/shareware) that
works on '030 Macs equipped with an FPU?

Also I'm looking for a copy of Larry Pina's book "Upgrading and Repairing
Mac IIs", if you have one for sale e-mail me at my personnal adress.


Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 13:17:12 +0100
To: Classic Posts
From: Donna Hood Pointer
Subject: book has the book listed. It is in print, therefore you can
probably order it at any bookstore.

Mac Classic & Se : Repair and Upgrade Secrets
by Larry Pina
List: $28.00
Our Price:
You Save: $5.60

Availability: This
item usually ships
within 2-3 days.

To: Classic Posts
From: sblixt
Date: 25 Sep 97 18:26:52 -0500
Subject: Looking for a book

Im looking for a book that is titled "Macintosh Classic and SE Upgrade
Secrets" If anyone would have this book and want to sell it, or know
where I can get a copy, please let me know. Thanks much

Scott Blixt


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