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Table of Contents for this issue:
Hewlett Packard Printer
RealPlayer for Color Classic
Network Issues, Old to New
Re: Classic Macs Digest Archives
Re: Network Issues, Old to New
Re: Burning CD's
Antique Software
Re: Floppy Drive and Monitor Questions
Apple Font
Re: Classic Macs Digest Archives
Classic II for sale

[Moderator's Note: Happy New Year to everyone!! Thank you all for your
support over this past year. In my (not so humble) opinion I think this is
one of the best mail lists on the web - But only because of you. Thanks to
you all!!!]

Subject: Hewlett Packard Printer
From: "Mark Hermonat"
To: "Classic Posts"
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 10:22:51 -0500

From: Luskin
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 19:26:31 EST
Subject: Hewlett Packard Printer
To: classic-post

I am setting up, with this list's enormous help, a few computers for non
profits. I just got a donation of a Hewlett Packard Laser Jet series II
printer. It is even heavier than a Macintosh LaserPrinter II, it is
amazingly heavy. I am told that it works perfectly.

I want to know if I can hook it up to a Mac IIvx or not. It has a parallel
port on it, which I am told is for PCs. The Mac II has only SCSI. Is it
possible to connect a parallel printer to a SCSI computer, and wouldn't I
need a printer driver for it? Would the rest of the printer software work,
or do I need to figure out who to trade this monster to for something that
works with Macs?

After searching endlessly, I found a v.small printer driver on the www that
allows one to use an HP II or III with a mac. It is something like "Chuck's
Printer Driver" and it works like a charm when hooked up using a mac serial
to HP serial connector. If you would like the file let me know and I can
send it to you.

Best Regards,
Mark Hermonat
Toronto, Canada

Subject: RealPlayer for Color Classic
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 10:31:57 -0500
From: Kurt Alex
To: classic-post

Is there any early version of RealPlayer available that will run on a Color

Kurt Alex (SPBG/SC)

Subject: Network Issues, Old to New
From: "J. McDonald"
To: "Classic Posts"
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 12:22:00 -0500

I am a novice to the Classic Mac forum, but I thought I might have a
suggestion or two for this issue. We have a number of old Macs at work that
we use for (of all things!) laboratory data acquisition and control. They
have hummed along fine for 10 years or so with almost daily work. I don't
have all of the details on them since I am not responsible for their care
and feeding, but most are running a flavor of System 6, with a few on 7.0.1
and 7.1.1. We access the data from the computers using TCP/IP and FTP
clients and servers from virtually any other machine on the network. We
have installed Ethernet cards in the ones having Nubus slots, and I think
there are AppleTalk to Ethernet bridges in use with some of the much older
machines (I will try to check on the details of this after I get back to
work from my Christmas break). We use Fetch and Anarchie as FTP clients
from some of the older Macs, or just the usual web-browsers from the newer
PowerPC machines or (gasp, cough) the various and sundry PCs on our LAN. I
am not sure what is being used for the FTP server software on each machine,
but I can check if there is interest.

Joe McDonald

Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 19:21:32 -0800
From: Paul G

Hi all,

Sorry I haven't been around much lately, but you all seem to be doing very
well without me :-)

Anyway, I love older Macs and I keep them around (as long as they are
non-PPC). Generally the old ones run with so little trouble that I just
don't have anything to ask! Now I'm running into a problem. My latest
upgrade was a rather big one it seems, from a Performa 6400 running system
8.0 to a brand new 350mhz iMac (system 9.0.4). I generally keep my software
archive (a rather large one) on my newest Macs. I figure that the newer
hard drive is less likely to fail than the older ones, and that several
would never fail at the same time (I keep it archived on one or more older
Macs too).

So great, what is available that will allow my to network my Plus running
system 6.0.7 with the new iMac? (I understand just fine that system 6
didn't serve files - its kinda one way while I sit on my favorite Plus)
I'll buy new hardware, but I don't plan on going to ethernet for the rest
of them. After all, the iMac is the only one with ethernet (and the only
one missing localtalk). I just want to connect my oldest of Macs up to my
newest of Macs (all 6 of them), my choice at anytime. I'm looking into a
couple of ethernet to local talk adapters right now (waiting for tech
responces), but one of them has mentioned problems with non-OT Macs (not
exactly possible on a Plus :-).


I'll try to monitor the next few digests, but to be honest I'm a bit behind
with other work. A direct Cc of your responce to the list would be
appriciated. Sorry if this has been covered lately, perhaps you could
direct me to the correct digest and post. Any answers that I find that work
for me I will post to the list.

Thanx for your help,

Subject: Re: Classic Macs Digest Archives
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 20:51:35 -0800
To: John Robinson
From: James Jung

At 6:17 PM -0800 12/27/2000, The Moderator wrote:

I have tried to keep the html simple and am removing all email addresses.
Slownness on getting all the issues posted is associated with email address
removal and getting some of the formatting a bit more consistent across the
run of the Digest.

I have to comment that it looks nice and neat (a good thing...=P).
Maybe some type of search function could be implemented in the future?


James Jung, Apple Product Demonstrator \\ "I think, therefore, iMac."
Vice President of Technology
GKNHS, Cal Poly Pomona |

Subject: Re: Network Issues, Old to New
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 01:37:23 -0500 (EST)
From: Amber Rhea
To: Classic Posts

This is the perfect opportunity for me to hawk my (still-in-progress)
networking web page!

Really, I will be adding more to it soon... but seeing as how I just got
married... networking classic Macs has not been at the top of my priority
list! :)

[Moderator's Note: Congratulations!!!]

**** Amber Rhea ****

Subject: Re: Burning CD's
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 12:22:35 +0000
To: Classic Posts
From: Simon Storey

I picked up an external SCSI CD writer at a flea market. I tried it on a PC
with a SCSI card, so I know it works. I'd like to use it to archive some of
my Mac files. Is this possible with a Classic Mac? I have a IIci as well as
many lesser models. Also, can anyone recommend burning sofware for the Mac,
preferably free or inexpensive.

I have a first-generation CD writer, a Pinnacle RCD5020.

With the Pinnacle software the performance was barely adequate.

Hell, it was less than barely adequate, it was completely unacceptable.
Mostly coasters were produced. And it would never work at 2X, I had to run it
at 1X, and even then it still produced mostly coasters.

I have a 2x writer (Sony mech. in a ProWrite box) I've had from new a
couple of years ago - it worked fine with the Quadra 950 I was running
then, and I tried it at least once on an SE30 - fine too - I think - this
would have been with v3.5.5 of Toast, which came with the writer.

Sounds like it's pot luck - certainly the sort of thing most have one of,
if at all, and it's suck it and see. Possible ways around your problem, if
you get hold of Toast but have too many problems, would either be pick up
an 040 machine somewhere (all dropping in price wildly here in the UK, as
ever right time & right place), or stuff & binhex your archives, transfer
them over to the PC (if req. use a null modem serial link for larger files)
then store on 9660 format CDs - most Mac CD drives will still be able to
read them, and you get your backup storage...


Subject: Antique Software
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 09:32:45 -0800 (PST)
From: alan chilton
To: classic-post

Hi All

Recently got a deal on a bunch of older mac software
(20 some applications for 5 bucks) and in the box was
a program called Letterperfect. The program was
produced by wordperfect and the disks have a 1992
copyright date on teh label. It is version 2.1 The
letterperfect set is missing disk at least the program
1 disk (it has the installer, disk 2 and 3) so...

1) What was this program used for?

2) Where do I find disk 1.

Have been doing some web mining and can't really come
up with anything that makes alot of sense on this


Subject: Re: Floppy Drive and Monitor Questions
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 01 16:39:21 +1100
From: Michael Dawe
To: "Classic Posts"

Second item from the thrift shop is an Apple Multiscan 15 Display. Display
powers up attached to a Mac but the video changes from normal to
predominately red or blue or green with slightly diagonal lines. A sharp
hit (manual adjustment) on top of the monitor case at the front retores
normal function for anywhere from a couple of seconds to a couple of
minutes. Has anyone experienced (and solved) this problem?

Can't help you with the floppy, BUT good news on the monitor. That problem
is so common that Apple extended the warranty. Call them, last I heard they
were still shipping a replacement, then you ship them the bad one in the
same packaging. You pay only the shipping one way.

I've also fixed them. The problem is cracked solder joints on the board at
the rear of the CRT. For me it's faster and easier to fix 'em, but I
recommend calling Apple.


I've also found this to be the case with the Apple Multiscan 15 Display
- "cracked solder joints on the board at the rear of the CRT" and done
the repair onsite. I still use a self-repaired 15 inch Multiscan, now in
excellent working condition since 1995. But like Paul would not recommend
this course of action to anyone not familiar with CRT's, a soldering iron
and a current life insurance policy which covers death by electrocution.

I didn't realize the extended warranty on this monitor still applied
though (good news if it does).


Subject: Apple Font
From: "John Hayward"
To: "Classic Posts"
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 18:32:57 -0000

Help. Where can I download the tall Roman style font Apple uses for the case
badging of its machines and promotional material. I need it in Windows
format for a web project which will be of benefit to all retro computer

I checked a few free font sites and couldnt find anything obvious.

John H
Portsmouth, Hampshire, UK.

Subject: Re: Classic Macs Digest Archives
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 01 19:40:05 -0800
From: John Robinson
To: "James Jung"

James Jung commented about the Classic Macs Archives:

I have to comment that it looks nice and neat (a good thing...=P).
Maybe some type of search function could be implemented in the future?


Hi James,

Thanks for the comments! A search engine is in the plans!!

John Robinson

Subject: Demise
From: viper592
To: classic-post
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:25:41 -0600

I know this is a little of topic
But here goes

Newer Technologies has gone bankrupt and closed their doors.
If you all, as I do, have any of their products or plan on getting any
from ebay or anywhere else. It would be advisable to go download and
drivers you need now.

As their website is already deteriorating.
here is a link to an article talking about the closure

sorry to announce this, but thought i better before you are unable to get
you software.

I did notice they had some 68k mac products as well.

Subject: Classic II for sale
From: "Katharine Fortin"
To: classic-post
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 13:17:30 -0000

I have an Apple Macintosh Classic II that I am looking to sell. I have been
told that these models are quite desirable. Is this true and if so, how
much should I be asking.

[Moderator's Note: Check out the completed auctions at eBay by doing a
search for this specific machine. These results will give you a pretty good
idea of what a specific machine can get.]

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