Table of Contents for
this issue:
Re: Trashing Mac Pluses
Re: 68010 Upgrade for Plus?
Re: Lisa Problems
Sharing 1 Monitor+Keyboard+Mouse between a PC and a Mac
Re: Mac II and Color
Classic Tea kettle
SE 30 Browser
Hard Drives for the Mac Classic II
Re: Norton Utilities 1.1 and Mac OS 7.5.5...
Re: Can You Use a Paperport Vx with Compact...
From: Dan Pritchard
Not kidding. Here in NorCal the tide seems to be continuing to
turn toward
Windows. I just heard that two Mac labs (currently with LCIIIs
and
Performas) will be replaced with Gateways or Dells.
It makes me really sad to think of an insanely great Macintosh
being thrown
in a dumpster. Students used to like Macs, but with this
'phase-out'
orchestrated by bean counters, many students have not used a Mac
since
grade school.
At 09:14 AM 1/7/2001, you wrote:
Dear Mr. Pritchard,
Please tell me you didn't say your school is really TRASHING
their Mac
Pluses! They should know that there are plenty of people who would
love to
own an old Mac.
Fearlessly jump in and take them. What you can't use or don't
want, give
to the thrift store or other charity
In a message dated 1/9/01 9:25:38 PM, Nicholas S. Horne writes:
I happened to be reading an old magazine recently which
suggested that a
Mac Plus, (and presumably a 128, 512, Classic or SE) could be
upgraded
to a 68010 processor. Has anybody heard of this before or done such
an
upgrade? I'd like to try my hand at a little project.
This is theoretically possible, but there would be absolutely no
point to
making this "upgrade".
The 68000 processor core contains a flaw which prevents virtual
memory from
working properly. This flaw, and only this flaw, was corrected in the
68010.
Therefore the 68010 is quite simply a 68000 with a single bit in
its control
register changed so that it operates properly in a virtual memory
environment.
In order to be of any possible benefit, this "upgrade" would have
to include
the ability to address more RAM.
But there is no ability within the 128K, 512K, Plus or SE "glue
logic" to
address more RAM.
Also, this "upgrade" would need the addition of an MMU to make any
use of the
virtual memory feature which was added in the 68010.
The 68010 may have been made in a 64-pin 0.900" DIP, but I have
not seen any
in this package.
Most 68010s were made in a 68-pin ceramic package, and that's the
one I used
in a processor which was designed in about 1985.
The fix mentioned above, plus much more, was included in the 68020.
There were several good 68020 upgrades made for these early Macs.
There is no point in "upgrading" a 68000 Mac to a 68010
I am pretty sure that it is the system software on you Lisa that
is
corrupt. I have encountered similar problems on many other Lisas.
Basicly,
over the course of several years, the data on the drive goes bad. The
hard
drive is not necessarily bad tho. It is kind of like a Mac that the
system
folder has been corrupted on and you cannot boot from that drive
anymore
and you must re-install the system software. Do a fresh install of
MacWorks
or the Lisa OS if you have the correct ROM's. If you need a copy of
any of
these I will do it for free so long as you cover the postage and the
cost
of the disks.
If the drive does turn out to be bad, you can still boot the Lisa
as a Mac
XL with 2 disks. The first disk has the Macintosh ROM on it which
loads
into the Lisa's RAM. The second disk is just a regular boot disk
(400k
ofcourse) that contains something like Mac OS 4.1. It will function
just
like a Mac 128k or 512k because of the 400k drive but will have 1 mb
of RAM.
Hope this clarifies some things.
From: Chue, Eric
Subject: Sharing 1 Monitor+Keyboard+Mouse between a PC and a Mac
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:18:05 -0500
[expensive hardware solutions snipped]
Why not try an almost zero-cost software soultion: Set up the PC
with
Linux and VNC and ethernet cable (or slower serial connection);
the
Mac with Ethernet/serial resp., the keyboard and the monitor. VNC
basically exports Displays to screens. So if you want Mac only,
use
the Mac. If you want the PC, use the Mac and export its screen to
the
Mac over the network.
You can also run a (commercial) emulator like VMware to have
M$
Windows run in a Linux PC's window; or use maybe an emulator on
your
Mac. There are also Xservers for Windows, but they're all
commercial,
so why not just benefit from Linux... With Linux on i386 Hardware
you
can, as a side effect, use those cheap parallel port printers,
maybe
even USB. I recommend Debian GNU Linux; I have it both on my PC and
on
my PowerBook 3400 (which, BTW, can of course also print to my
StyleWriter 1200 on the serial port).
HTH
Andre Berger
If you place a color video card in, all Mac II for factors support color.
Soooo... any idea why my Mac IIx with the color card only displays grays?
*** Amber Rhea ***
http://www.tangerinecs.com
Hello everybody,
I just picked up a Classic II and on start-up it makes a
screeching noise
that starts out at a high pitch and evolves into a low gurgling
rumble. The
noise goes away for a time but returns several more times before it
stops
returning completely. Any ideas ?
Thanks in advance. John
As a happy, inexperienced, and new SE 30 owner, which internet
browser
would work best with my SE 30 running system 7.6 and where would I
obtain
it?
RDE
I just bought a Classic II for nostalgic reasons. Everything
appears to be
running well with the exception of the hard drive. It's only a 40mb
drive
and I had planned on upgrading it as soon as possible. Unfortunately,
I
haven't been able to locate a vintage hard drive at all. Is it
possible to
use any size SCSI drive? I mean, can I put a brand new drive in
regardless
of size. I had heard of Classic II's having as high as 120mb hard
drives,
but finding one is nearly impossible without risking another auction
buy
(I'd hate to buy several Classic II's and find they all have defunct
hard
drives). So can I put, say, a 9 GB SCSI drive in it?
Kelly
At 7:53 PM -0800 1/9/2001, Luskin wrote:
A super nice person just gave me Norton Utilities 1.1, to go
with Mac OS
7.5.5
[snip]
I am going to be system support for the Mac IIvx and the 180c
until
they rust away.
[snip]
I have been a registered user of Norton Utilities for almost
ten years, but I
am the opposite of a pack rat, I save nothing.
Call up Symantec Customer Service (800-441-7234). They can
work
something out with you. If you talk to them long enough (and with
the right words), you can get them to send you Norton Utilities
for
Macintosh Version 3.5.3 on a CD for the cost of shipping.
NUM3.5.3
works on Mac OS 7.5.5.
I hope this helps.
James Jung, Apple Product Demonstrator \\ "I think, therefore, iMac."
Vice President of Technology
GKNHS, Cal Poly Pomona | http://www.csupomona.edu/~goldenkey
Freelance Computing (...for hire) \\ Macintosh & PC Technical
Support
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/3357
"And we know that all things work together for good to them that
love God,
to them who are the called according to His purpose." --Romans 8:28
(KJV)
At 7:53 PM -0800 1/9/2001, Chue, Eric wrote:
I managed to get my hands on an almost-new Paperport Vx scanner
by
Visioneer.
[snip]
Can you set it to scan in 1-bit mode and get it to work with
the 9" compact
screens?
I don't see why not. Although I have not used that particular
scanner nor its software, most scanners (and their software) I've
used allow you to scan in 1-bit mode (i.e. black and white). It
is
AKA "Line Art".
Now, I don't know what the system requirements are, but make sure
you
have at least 4MB RAM (but preferably 8MB) and Mac OS 7.5.5. The
RAM
limit for the Plus, Classic, and SE are 4MB, so you may not be
able
to get it to run on these machines. However, there's no harm in
trying.
I hope this helps.
James Jung, Apple Product Demonstrator \\ "I think, therefore, iMac."
Vice President of Technology
GKNHS, Cal Poly Pomona | http://www.csupomona.edu/~goldenkey
Freelance Computing (...for hire) \\ Macintosh & PC Technical
Support
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/3357
"And we know that all things work together for good to them that
love God,
to them who are the called according to His purpose." --Romans 8:28
(KJV)