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The Curious Case of the Whistling Performa
SE/30- SCSI controller
Re: 68010 Upgrade for Plus?
Re: Mac IIfx problem
Members of the MacUK list meet...
Re: Mac IIfx problem
macintosh se...
Re: Mac II and Color
Re: Color Classic Upgrade
rebate at CompUSA
MacIntosh Plus ??

Subject: The Curious Case of the Whistling Performa
From: Cliff Crouch
To: Classic Posts
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:30:40 -0600

Hullo there kids,

I have recently acquired a Performa 460, a/k/a Macintosh LC III or LC
III+, I believe. (This machine falls within the Classic Macs 68030
purview, yes?)

This Performa seems to have a disconcerting (inconsistent) tendency
to emit a squealing or whistling noise during the start-up process.
The whistling begins at a high pitch or tone, which steadily descends
(rather like the sound of Wile E. Coyote falling off a cliff in all
the Warner Brothers Roadrunner cartoons) ... until it reaches a
certain pitch; then the sound slowly goes back *up* the scale again
to a high pitch, until the noise gradually fades into the regular hum
of the computer's normal workings.

This noise isn't loud, but it's clearly audible. And it doesn't start
the second I turn the machine on; it seems to begin after the startup
chime and Happy Mac face, about the time the INITs march across the
screen. It also doesn't happen consistently -- it appears more likely
to happen the longer the machine has been off previously.

Any idea what's causing this? What disaster it portends? And/or, what
part I ought to replace? Surely this is a hardware rather than
software problem, nicht wahr? I've tried finding this topic in Ted
Landau's SAD MACS, BOMBS, AND OTHER DISASTERS, but to no avail.

With Thanks In Advance,
Cliff Crouch

Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is
vanity. --Ecclesiastes

There's a divinity that shapes our ends, rough-hew them how we will. --WS


Subject: SE/30- SCSI controller
From: Brian McEwen
To: Classic Posts
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:04:39 -0600 (CST)

Is the SCSI controller surface mount or otherwise sort of swappable?

I have a SE30 mainboard with dead SCSI controller, and another one with a
bad ROm socket.

Choices are either swapping SCSI controller from one to the other, ROM
socket from one to the other, or chucking them both. tools on hand are
those available at radioshack (no fancy solder station, here! :)

I'd like to get one working SE30 out of the pair as a backup
mainboard for the SE30 I do now have working as a router. I don't want to
really rely on the old SE30 unless I have a working backup for it.

Thanks for any info-


Subject: Re: 68010 Upgrade for Plus?
From: PeterH5322
To: Classic Posts
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 01:58:30 EST

In a message dated 1/18/01 5:10:30 AM, Mike Friese writes:

Also, the 010 has a "loop mode" which uses a 3 word (6 byte) on-chip
instruction cache to speedup small software loops.

Is the audience asleep yet?

"Loop Mode" was implemented on the IBM System/360 Model 91 several decades
before Motorola "discovered" this feature on the 68010.

In IBM's loop mode, instructions within the loop, which could be as long as
32 words, could be executed repeatedly in essentially zero time.

[Moderator: Similar to the loop mode when one gets with the endless
flashing "?" on startup...he says as he keeps nodding off. :) ]

Subject: Re: Mac IIfx problem
From: DrTekNik
To: Classic Posts
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 04:53:06 EST

Dear Glen,

You wrote:

My rock solid Mac IIfx froze today while running FileMaker Pro 4.xx. Forcing
FM Pro to crash.

This machine usually goes for months on end without any problems.

Running Norton 3.5x and Disk Warrior indicated no problems.


--Just wonder if anyone has any ideas as to what may be causing this problem.

Have you run a file corruption diagnostic? I use Disinfectant, but I'm
sure Norton has a file corruption check...

Hope this helps...

Subject: Members of the MacUK list meet...
From: Colin Morris
To: Classic Posts
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:09:27 -0800 (PST)

Dear Classic Listers

Members of the MacUK list meet up between Christmas
and New Year, at a small Internet cafe, in London's
East End. John Allen organized the venue, and I found
a small hotel that was pickle's base for his stay for
the holiday (I hope you liked it, pickle?)
I was nice to meet everyone, some who had only been
names on the list.

Early on in the proceedings, someone said we should
have photos, to show other LowEndMac lists what we had
been up to. I dashed out a local All Night Store, and
bought a disposable camera.

After a lot of fuss Here they are

Please follow this link to see them

Colin J. Morris

Subject: Re: Mac IIfx problem
To: Classic Posts
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:26:57 EST

In a message dated 1/18/01 4:53:06 AM, DrTekNik writes:

Have you run a file corruption diagnostic? I use Disinfectant, but I'm
sure Norton has a file corruption check...

Hope this helps...

Great idea!

Disinfectant found <Finder Preferences> had bad resource forks. Once that
file was trashed everything seemed to work OK -- at least it got me through

I do plan a clean system install and to reinstall PM as soon as time permits
-- another great suggestion I received.

Sometimes I wonder why I buy these commercial diagnostic programs that don't
diagnose the real problem when Freeware works?

BTW the hard drive checked out OK with no bad blocks.

Thanks again --glen

Subject: Macintosh SE...
From: David Goodrich
To: Classic Posts
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:36:42 -0600

anybody know of a site offhand that has diagrams for turning a
macintosh se into an aquarium? thanks in advance! -david

Subject: Re: Mac II and Color
From: Amber Rhea
To: Classic Posts
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:34:40 -0500 (EST)

This is the only video card in the computer. The monitors control panel
will let me choose up to 256 colors, but it still displays only gray. The
card says "High Resolution Display Video Card" and has the standard BD-15
connect. In the bottom left corner there is a number BH9011626. Model


On Sat, 15 Jan 2000, Stephen Dauphin wrote:

> If you place a color video card in, all Mac II for factors support color.

Soooo... any idea why my Mac IIx with the color card only displays grays?

*** Amber Rhea ***


Have you solved this yet? Card and monitor specifics would help. How
much memory on the card?

There are many proprietary card/monitor combinations that are greyscale
only but somebody would think should be color.

What about the cable? What kind of connect? Standard Mac DB-15 or
oddball like 13W3 or BNCs?

What does the Monitors control panel say?

Do you have any other monitor/card in the other 5 slots?

If you can give more information, people will be better able to diagnose
the problem.

Stephen Dauphin

**** Amber Rhea ****

Subject: SE/30 AGAIN
From: Robert Elliott
To: Classic Posts
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:38:55 -0800

First of all I want to thank all of you for your responses to my previous
question. Secondly, I was told by the person that I bought my SE/30 from
that it was running 7.6 when actually 7.5.5 was installed. I apologize for
any misinformation.

Now on to my second problem:

I have a Lynksys router which attaches to my cable modem to provide internet
access to several computers on my home network. I have a NIC card installed
in my SE/30 and I can see my iMac and the SE/30 via ethertalk.

I have attempted to install Apple's Internet connection kit, a cutom install
which installs networking, which I assume installs Mac/TCP via 1.44 disks
three times. When I get to the point where in again asks for Disk 1, after
a 10 disk install, it says there was an error trying to complete the
installation and the install fails.

So plan B. Is there a way to install Mac/TCP or TCP/IP on the SE/30? Will
Mac/TCP allow me to connect to the internet through the Linksys router or do
I need TCP/IP?

Your help is appreciated.
 Robert D. Elliott

Subject: Re: Color Classic Upgrade
From: GY
To: Classic Posts
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 23:32:55 -0600

With enough modification to a Color Classic case you can place a 10" SVGA
monitor and PM Cube G4 in there. It involves cutting and modifying the case
in unique ways.

I have spent a few months researching the monitor and obtaining one at a
reasonable cost. Waiting for it to arrive and finish the job. The monitor
arrived early this week!

I go into more detail at the following URL:

The 10" SVGA POS color terminal will cost anywhere in between $100 to $700
(US). There are only two plants in Japan still making them.

The nice thing is you don't have to modify the screen of the existing Color

I hope someone finds this useful!

P.S. The Mac512 site also mentions a Power Color Classic G4!

Subject: rebate at CompUSA
From: Blair Thompson
To: Classic Posts
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 14:06:07 -0500

Aladinn Systems Stuffit 5.5 is $9.99 after the $20 rebate this week at
the US chain CompUSA.

Subject: MacIntosh Plus ??
From: lawrie mcrae
To: Classic Posts
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 11:17:33 -0800

Hello there:

Just recently someone gave me the following PC:

Macintosh Plus (model #M0001A)
Image Writer printer

I know nothing re the Macintosh machine, it has a 3.5 floppy drive out
front, I haven't opened it up yet to see the internals. When I power it up
I get an Arrow (upper left screen), and a Floppy symbol in the middle of
the screen.

I am assuming it wants to boot off a floppy, unfortunately I received no
software/disks with the machine.

Can anyone out there brief me on what I have here? E.g. where does it live
in relation to the PC world, namely is it a XT,AT,286,386, or 486? Is there
a source for software on the net whereby I can download operating system(s)
and other software?

Many thanks for time!
 L. McRae

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